WOTM: Does She Know Jesus?
In another public forum, Ayaan Hirsi Ali talked about her coming to Jesus moment. And it sounds to me like she doesn't understand anything about Christian theology. In particular, the doctrine of the Holy Trinity and how that implicates Jesus in everything done and commanded by the genocidal, homophobic, misogynistic Tribal War god of Abraham.
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I have to disagree on one point: Depending on the kind of fiction one writes, don't you want your readers to hate your villain? When you're watching the movie, don't you hate the villain as he tortures the hero? There's nothing wrong with saying you hate Darth Vader or Voldemort, you're just appreciating the ability of the author to manipulate your emotions. That manipulation is why I consume media. I difference is that I know that Darth Vader and Voldemort don't actually exist.
Agreed. The difference is that when watching a movie or reading a book, your baseline is that the existence of the characters is fictional, and that their actions have no bearing on our actual reality. There’s no expectation of genuine existence. They are fictional characters written solely for the purpose of evoking emotion. In that way, their existence is not genuine. Which is why I used the examples of Bigfoot and unicorns. Whose existence would be neither fictional nor created solely for the purpose of evoking emotion.
I saw Ayaan give a keynote speech at an American Atheist convention in April of 2015. Standing inside a vast room within the historic Peabody Hotel I watched and listened as she displayed her courage and determination. I remember thinking that she really didn’t speak deeply about her own thoughts of religion or how she brought herself to the point of labeling herself an atheist. Her speech spent most the time contrasting the currently modern muted Christianity with the extreme barbarism of Islam that hasn’t changed much since its inception. Her speech seemed geared to get Western atheists to apply more focus on publicly combatting Islam due to this perceived distinction she was making. It wasn’t clever, complex, deep or without flaw. Still, aside from some flaws, it was a good speech. Here’s the speech: https://youtu.be/8A1twk4ZUAE?si=ezXH7549BoCk8X1p
Allah was a "horror show"? But Yahweh isn't? And Jesus? Mmmmaybe better ask the fig tree and the herd of swine.
And as Hitch used to say, at least Yahweh left you alone after you died. Jesus is handing you over to Torquemada if you didn’t believe the right thing.
I have emotions about many fictional characters.
Fictional character indeed!
I'm reminded of the scene in Catch 22, when Yossarian is in bed with the colonel's wife arguing about religion. She says, the god I don't believe in is kind, loving god. He's not the mean, spiteful, angry god you make him out to be! Or something like that...
I’ve seen it more than a few times directly. People hit bottom or whatever you want to call it and then turn to religion. Or people like Francis Collins who just saw a frozen waterfall and bang he now believes in god. I’ve even seen them come back from that. I hit “bottom “ more than once, but I never even considered turning to religion. Weird.
I live at the bottom and still can see what a scam religion is. LOL!!!
A little off topic, but in these interviews Ayaan is a very troubled person who has not resolved her conflicts. She spent much of her life as a victim, and it shows. Her history also shows why she might want that comforting “daddy” figure. I doubt her therapist would confront her directly on this during sessions because a direct confrontation would be harmful. Also, I don’t see how making the talk show circuit would be helpful. The sad part is how she is being used by the excusigists and continues to be victimized.
Absolutely!!!