Violet Evergarden Episode 13 Reaction

Watch the movie A Silent Voice if you want to see more of KyotoAnimation works. The animation and the story is really good and kyotoani did a great job with this movie

I just finished the second movie, and I'm honestly wondering if I watched the same film as others in the comments here. Like the film doesn't treat Violet and Gilbert's relationship any different than the show. They just came across as platonic soulmates in my view. I can understand if people preferred the show's ending, but the movie doesn't go where others here claim. Not really looking to argue or diminish others' opinion on the movie, I'm just confused by some of the comments here.

Super late here. The first movie is great, and you can just watch the first one without needing to see the second one. There is further development for Violet’s character and experience. I think the first one is an overall wholesome watch and I actually wish the first movie was part of the series

The first movie is called "Violet Evergarden: Eternity and the Auto Memory Doll" and its the uncontroversial one, so if you want more Violet content without ruining the show for you then its a safe option since its just a little side adventure, the 2nd controversial movie is called "Violet Evergarden: The Movie" and it acts as a direct sequel to the show and I already talked about it in the comment above.

I was one of the people who said that the love between Violet and the Major was left ambiguous in the show and that you can view it as platonically/parental if you want to and I remember a lot of people attacking me and telling that it was obviously not that case and that the show made it very clear that they were romantically in love, but you two just finished the show and I think you can agree with me that there was nothing that was *explicitly* romantic about their relationship (as in "you can't see it any other way") and as someone who watched the movies, I can tell you that their relationship in them was as ambiguous as it was in the show. So if you couldn't see anything problematic about their relationship in the show, you wouldn't see anything problematic in the movie either in my opinion.

its really as simple as the story isnt over, the author wrote more, its not supposed to completely end there despite how good of an ending it it, it's still lacking things that get explored more in the movie. anyone can have their opinion on not watching the rest because they didnt like it (but thats only after theyve watched and judged it for themselves), but its honestly a disservice to the author and story itself to not finish it just because others have said its not how they wanted it. and as said before the movie is typically widely regarded as a very beautiful good movie so that just makes it even more frustrating when theres a group of people telling you to not finish the story. people can formulate their own thoughts once theyve watched it for themselves.

Based on everything you both said in the end discussion I guess my recommendation would be to just not watch that final movie. I agree with you both, this is a PERFECT ending to the story and I still cant understand why it was continued when it was already so perfectly wrapped up. Like Lola, i am able to kind of separate my enjoyment of the show vs that final movie but I won’t lie, if i had known what that final movie was about I prob would not have watched it. However, I don’t think it ruins everything for me, it’s just frustrating because it is not as good as an ending as this was. At the end of the day the decision is yours, but just taking into account everything you said in this discussion, I don’t see how it will be enjoyable for the both of you. These 13 episodes are so damn beautiful and will forever be one of my all time favorite shows so I am glad you both enjoyed it!

I have to express my disappointment with what's happening in this comment section. It's clear that mentioning anything positive about the final movie immediately leads to passive attacks from someone. It feels like they attempt to push their opinions on others, creating an environment where everyone is expected to agree that they hate this movie and make it seem like a bad thing that we enjoyed the movie. This is just wrong and makes me angry. Everyone has the right to their own opinion, including Milena and Lola. Everyone should decide for themselves whether they like or dislike something, and we should also be able to express our love for this movie. Because, believe it or not, many people loved this movie and I’m sure that some don’t even want to admit in this comment section that they loved it as well because as you can see you get immediately “attacked” for it. This just ruined it all for me, and I used to be so excited to see them reacting to Violet's ENTIRE story. I regret signing up on Patreon now. Love or hate this movie. I don’t care. But let everyone have their own opinion and don’t make them feel bad about it!

The sequel movie spits in the face of the series and Violet’s character development. No reason to let a movie ruin the show for you, and anyone who actually listened to the last few minutes of the review will agree. It does go down that route, and it sucks. The series is already perfect as it is.

In the last movie Violet is 18 years old. That's the reason why many don't care much that it's a romantic story.

The last film is mainly pure art. The series has an open ending, and this is because the film concludes everything, absolutely everything, because it has two timelines. I can't say more because it would be a spoiler, but the story connects with one of the best chapters of the series in a direct and masterful way. You don't know you need to see it until once.

From your discussion, i think you really shouldn't watch the movies. I loved them personally but considering what you want/don't want, just end your Violet journey here.

It would be a real shame if you didn't see the movies. I don't understand why people say they shouldn't watch them. It is essential to see them. The movies conclude everything. Pay the subscription to see the reaction to the movies. Mainly the last ones.

Oh, and since you asked for it: Here is a list of productions from Kyoto Animation: - Clannad (Sentimental Drama Comedy Romance, 2007-2009, 46 episodes, #12 in MAL Top List) - A Silent Voice (Sentimental Drama Romance, 2016, movie, #13 in MAL Top List) - Nichijou (Slice of Life Comedy, 2011, 26 episodes, #85 in MAL Top List) - K-On (Slice of Life Comedy, 2011, 41 episodes, #116 in MAL Top List) - Sound! Euphonium (Slice of Life Drama, 2015-2024 [season 3 in April], 27+ episodes, #135 in MAL Top List) Since the arson attack, Kyoto Animation has released Miss Obayashi's Dragon Maid, Tsurune, Free! and soon Euphonium. So they're already back to a pretty decent output.

I can't believe I catched uo and in the end I still didn't watch the finale when they posted it 💀 tonight shall be it 🫡

I'll spoil the second movie completely now: First, the story begins with a great idea: a character 50 years after the end of the anime works as a narrator of events in Violet's life. Instead of possibly seeing a sequence in which several years pass by as Violet lived her life in the end, we get the chance to see a character who grew up in a time when letter writing no longer played a major role, learn from Violet's life and write a letter in her current situation to express her feelings. It's also a nice element to show the effect of the anime on the viewer. Many started writing letters to friends and family as a result. But we learn of the first terrible plot relatively early on through the person of the future: Violet stops working at the post office at the age of 18 and no further letters or texts from her are revealed. That already hints at something very unpleasant, but I'll go into it when we get there. Finally, we see more of Dietfried and Violet. Their relationship has changed completely. They are much closer, more understanding and we learn more about their childhood and relationship with their father. Every scene with Dietfried is great. He is my favorite character in the movie. Also, the case Violet has in this movie, a sick little boy who wants goodbye letters to his family in case he dies (similar to episode 10/11), is very nice, but a little too repetitive for me personally. Kyoto Animation should have come up with a new motif in my opinion. Now we come to the main plot: Gilbert is alive. I would have been OK with that, but in the movie Violet is no longer shown happy like at the end of the anime, but more sad and cold again. She refuses to go out with her friends and colleagues because she would rather work and only think about Gilbert. Violet is shown to be incredibly dependent on Gilbert, she doesn't live without him, she just exists. She even pushes away the care of Hodgins. They try to show that Violet needs closure with Gilbert in order to be happy. In my opinion, Kyoto Animation should have shown her happy and show her sad when she learns that Gilbert is alive or his body was found in Intense or another event. By showing her sad from the beginning and being repulsive to her friends, it revises the ending of the anime. I found Gilbert's decision to go into hiding and work as a teacher in former enemy territory due to guilt very fitting. The first interactions between Violet and Gilbert were also great to watch. Unfortunately, however, from minute 122 onwards, everything is run down. Gilbert basically says: "Give up your newly built life. You must hate working under Hodgins and with your friends, doing fun things with them. Leave it all behind and move in with me." A romantic relationship is hinted at, but not shown. In general, Gilbert comes across as a creepy selfish asshole from here on. I find it particularly unbearable how everyone in the post office goes to a fireworks display in Leiden and Violet is not with them to say goodbye, not meeting with them still regularly and maintaining the friendship, but is with Gilbert, far away. If it had ended with her still working at the Post Office but now visiting Gilbert once a month and talking to him regularly on the phone (the new technology, themed in the movie), then it would have been a nice ending. Ultimately, the movie screams: Violet is nothing without Gilbert, unhappy and just existing. The implied romantic relationship is really just the rotten cherry on the moldy cake. The fact that she wants to help people with her actions, the writing of letters, wants to make amends for her deeds in the war, was simply thrown away in the movie. And I felt particularly sorry for Iris' character. She's the least favorite doll in the post office and continues to chase her desire to be the best doll in Leiden. Instead of giving her a nice conclusion to her character like Erica, her dream is denied. Anyone who has finished watching or listening to your discussion about how you want to know if the worst-case scenario you've painted will happen should realize that you're going to hate the second movie.

Not gunna lie I’m quite disappointed that you are dismissing the films because a lot of people do really love them. I know it’s been polarizing in the Patreon comments but they are rated highly (particularly the last film) for a reason. But hey it’s your channel at the end of the day. And I’m excited for Ranking of Kings!

Anyone saying they should watch the movie clearly didn’t listen to their discussion. They give several reasons why they would not enjoy it

I think it would be fair to have a poll for the movies. Who else agrees?

The movies are must watch, no idea how could anyone think they aren't...

I’ll vote for NOT watching the movie… the ideas and themes of its story are really contradictory to the ones of the show. When rewatching the show I just pretend that’s where it ends…

I really do love how it culminated in Violet finally writing to the Major. Definitely got me emotional, and I really liked the journey Violet’s character went on. The ending felt a bit ambiguous, but seemed to imply she was meeting the Major just by how she reacted to whoever she saw. I agree with what you said in the discussion though - I got to the end and really didn’t feel like I needed more, or that I wanted the major to show up - if he did, it would need more time to show that properly. Something tells me that’s what is in one of the movies. So…I dunno, I don’t feel super interested in the movies and feel pretty good about where the show left. But if you guys are watching then I’ll end up checking them out eventually. So, I’m glad I gave this show another shot! I still have some issues with it but I did end up enjoying the experience and connected with it emotionally.

Even if you don't watch the second movie, which would be understandable, I would highly suggest you watch the first movie. It's basically a long OVA, and it's heartful, has a wonderful story, and I'm sure you would adore it!

I'm really glad you two enjoyed this so much, its been one of my favorite reactions! I hope you watch more shows like this in the future. I would highly recommend Fruits Basket. It also has a female lead thats one of my favorite characters ever. It's a really great drama with lots of deep and interesting characters, found families, romance, and a very salifying ending too! It's only 3 seasons too.

I absolutely loved the final movie! It continues and wraps up the story so I don’t understand why some people are adamant on not watching them The arguments I’ve seen is all about the matter of their taste or what not, which I think okay fine but not a reason for others not to watch them But yes I still highly recommend watching it

the last movie is incredible and expands upon/wraps up many other storylines and characters that didnt wrap up fully in only the anime episodes alone. that said, many people (seems to be the louder minority because as a whole the movie is VASTLY well received) do not like a certain aspect of it, me included on that one specific thing, but they DO handle it well for what it is. i think most people just want it to end the way they want in their minds so they dont want you to watch them for that reason. you should really just watch it and judge for yourself, they are definitely worth seeing in that right, its the end of the story.

I say YES to watching the movies. Especially the final one is a must watch! I enjoyed the movies a lot and they both have great ratings on IMDb (that just speaks for itself that the majority LOVED this movie). I’m kind of surprised that so many people on here don’t like it and they are so vocal about it lol. As it was already mentioned the movies still treat their characters with love and care and tell great stories. And since they had a higher budget the animation is even more beautiful and breathtaking. Personally, I really liked the ending of the final movie and it completed Violet’s story perfectly but I can see why some people wouldn’t like it but imo that’s just a matter of how you interpret everything since the anime left it very open. I completely agree with Violet’s choices and would have done the same. But you should decide for yourself if you like them or not (I mean … many told you that the ending of AoT is shit and you ended up liking it sooo … it is better to form your own opinions imo 😅) I truly think you both would enjoy the final movie and interpret it the right way (and yes I’ve watched their discussion and still think they would love it) I don't understand why so many people try so damn hard to portray the movies in the worst possible light. If they don’t want to see your reaction to the movie they don’t have to watch your reaction. I just think you deserve to form your own opinion just like we all did and I think you’re missing out on a beautiful movie and the beautiful story that it wants to tell if you don’t even try to give it a chance. And let’s be honest, Violet deserves that you finish her story and see how far she’s come at the end!

What else I can say as you have been talking about this for quite a while in the discussion: If the second movie ended with Gilbert alive and having romantic feelings for Violet, it would still be better for me personally than the ending we ultimately got in the second movie. But that's my personal opinion. 😅 So if that's already a reason for you not to watch it, then don't watch the second movie. What is happening is much worse for me.

Personally enjoy both films, having rewatched them both this month. Never really understood the hate for them, the first movie is basically a long episode that doesn’t really affect Violet’s overall character arc/growth so it’s more time with a character I love as well as a lot of time with Benedict. The second film concludes Violet’s story (takes place several years after the series), has some really great character work for Hodgins, Gilbert’s brother and Violet. As someone who felt similarly, im always happy there is more Violet Evergarden, and the amount of care to its characters, animation, themes and music is what makes the show so special; the movies continue with that care imo.

I always thought that the person Violet saw at the end of the episode was us - the viewer. It’s the first time she ever looks directly at us - the ones who followed her journey and watched her grow as a person. She’s surprised at first, but then smiles as if she recognized an old friend which we kind of are since we’ve been with her for such a long time. This scene also tells us that it’s our turn now - it’s our turn to write a letter, express our true feelings and send it to a person we love. And I really thinks that’s a beautiful way to interpret it.

The first movie is based on the second chapter of the third book and takes place between episodes 6 and 7 (the books tell the story non-linearly, which is why you often jump back and forth in time). Kyoto Animation has taken the story and expanded it to 90 minutes with a lot of post-plot. It feels like an OVA. The second movie has no basis in the books. Despite the same basic premise (terrorist attack with train, conflict with Dietfried, air show), the finale of the anime and the finale of the second book have been approached very differently. For example, Dietfried plays no big role at all in the fight against the anti-peace organization in the book. There were three separate stories in the book and Kyoto Animation combined them into one. In order to resolve the resulting discrepancy between the movie and the book, Kyoto Animation produced a second movie that indirectly takes up the plot from the finale of the second book and packs it into a new story. The only problem is that the book and the anime have already taken big steps apart. In the book, Violet is much harsher, more direct, older and more willing to use violence. Her magical 2 meter tall battle axe Witchcraft, which she pretty much always has with her, even when she's working as Doll, albeit folded up in her suitcase, is just one thing that comes to my mind. Ultimately, the second movie leaves you with a completely different feeling than the anime. For some fans, the second movie took the story to a new level, for others it made the anime unrewatchable. Personally, I would have preferred Kyoto Animation to have kept its own direction towards the end, as it did in the anime adaptation, instead of following the book.

I saw the movies yesterday and I looked up if there was a time skip or something because I was confused and it seems violets 18 in the final movie and it’s basically about what happens in the future and her conclusion with characters and stuff, but to be honest episode 13s conclusion is perfect so I don’t know what to think. The movie isn’t as bad as I thought it would be, some things didn’t really make sense but others did, so yeah, that’s just my view of things. Based on the review this episode you would not like the 2nd movie so maybe don’t watch it, Great reaction as always tho thanks for the episode.

Idk if I’m in the minority or majority but I hope yall don’t watch those movies 😭 obviously it’s your channel you can watch them if you want but it completely ruined the anime for me. Just seeing some of your general opinions I think you guys may dislike it.

I know one of the movies is meant to be the actual conclusion, but I’d be happy with this show ending here.

Hey guys, I'm posting this for the Violet fans as I know a lot of you will be sticking around for Ranking Of Kings in a few weeks time. I'm after putting together a Discord for us regular Patrons to discuss the shows further. There's separate channels for discussing shows with full series spoilers, or for no spoilers past the latest episode reacted to. There's also a channel for recommending series and anything else to one another, something we haven't been able to do since Patron got rid of Member Posts/Community tab, as well as the spreadsheet detailing everything the girls have/haven't watched. Enjoy, and Merry Christmas! https://discord.gg/YsJNAxbz

Wondering if I should just watch the normal reaction now as I won’t be able to get to the full reaction next week