October 28, 2023

Violet Evergarden Episode 5 Reaction

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Jacob · November 12, 2023

Like many people here it seems, I'm not really sure why the writer(s?) went with this extreme an age gap between the princess and prince. There probably had to be some age gap for their dynamic to work, but it certainly didn't need to be ten years, 2-3 could have worked. Still potentially uncomfortable, but at least easier to swallow with them being royalty and the time period the show seems to be based off of. It's not unrealistic necessarily, but neither would them being closer in age be, so why do it that way if it's not key to the story?

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Amber · November 14, 2023

i love this show to death but the same thing is true in relation to violets age idk why they couldnt have revealed her age to be a young adult at this point. it wouldnt take anything away from the story

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Markub El Jaden · November 1, 2023

Also the show never really confirmed if the love between Violet and the major to be parental love or romantic love, they keep it ambiguous until the very end so you can chose to view it either ways and I think viewing it as a parental love is the best way to enjoy the show.

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Markub El Jaden · November 1, 2023

I didn't actually read them, but apparently Violet is supposed to be 17/18 in the novels, but the anime changed that to 14? I don't know why, but for me I just consider her to be 17/18 years old since it sounds more realistic than being 14.

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BigSaberBro · October 30, 2023

Frieren is also pretty good for female centrist anime, most of the important characters are also women and the story and art is really beautiful.

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م - · October 29, 2023

Hi guys , I hope you react to anime PLUTO , it came out on Netflix these days and it's really unmissable 🥹🫶🏻🫶🏻

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Jack SV · October 29, 2023

Yeah I forgot this episode was coming lol. Very controversial subject as you can tell but at least most of us agree that this is very uncomfortable.

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Suil123 · October 29, 2023

i skipped this Ep, Japan be like this sometimes. HxH as well has similar problem, unfortunately you just kinda gotta look past it. show is legit great otherwise

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Robert Dirk H. · October 29, 2023

That is probably one of the biggest differences from the West. But Japan has also changed here. Recently, Japan's age of consent was raised from 13, among the world's lowest, to 16 years old.

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petitcorbeau · October 29, 2023

Unrelated to violet but honestly this episode grossed me out so I'm not sure I'll be able to watch your reaction... Anyway I'm here to tell you that Pluto is out and it's amazing!! You definitely have to watch it after violet, for multiple reasons. First, it's really short, there are only 8 episodes of fifty minutes each. Second, it's a Naoki Urasawa's manga, the one who wrote Monster so as you will not be able to react to monster until one year or two, Pluto is the perfect occasion to discover the writing of this amazing storyteller! And finally, Pluto is one of my favorite saga ever and I'm sure you'll love it since it touches subjects that are important to you. So it's a must watch and I hope you'll consider it ^^

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Jorginho · October 29, 2023

They said they are reacting to ranking of kings but after that they have to react to pluto its really good. (Hope pluto gets so big that creators will have a reason to animate another Urasawa masterpiece 20th century boys)

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Payam Sharifi · October 29, 2023

Yeah this is so easily the worst episode. I still can't say I consider it a BAD episode, as it's still quite good outside of the age gap, but that just makes it so hard to get into any of the good elements. Like why couldn't it have just been two adults?

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Robert Dirk H. · October 29, 2023

We've already indirectly discussed this episode in the comments here on Patreon before. This episode is very controversial and many don't like it, including me. I also thought about skipping this one, but I think the discussion will be very interesting. To put it in perspective, this episode is a story from the third book and actually has the meaning to show how important peace is and how big the price will be for it + to address something else. Here, however, the story feels a bit out of order, as the importance of peace has not been shown. I completely agree with you that in the anime they should have adjusted the age of the characters from the book. Violet is more like 14-17 at the start in the anime, and 17-20 in the book, and Charlotte could have been set at 16 and Damian at 20 and it would have been a nice story. Now that at least the episode is over, we're approaching the best part of Violet Evergarden. I'm really looking forward to the next episodes.

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HeavenlyR · October 29, 2023

Light vague Ranking of Kings spoilers. It's funny that both poll options ended up having similar problems that would bother them. I voted against Ranking of Kings because I felt they wouldn't like certain aspects later in the story and it ended up being in Evergarden also

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petitcorbeau · October 29, 2023

The ending of ranking of kings disappointed me so much. And I'm pretty sure they will not like it either...

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ridleymon · October 29, 2023

I'd like to throw out some recommendations for shows with female protags. Psycho-Pass is one I'm surprised doesn't get mentioned as much, it was pretty cool from what I remember (such a good op too). Not sure if it'd be up their alley but Serial Experiments Lain is super good. Some newer ones to note would be Wonder Egg Priority, Heavenly Delusion, and Keep Your Hands Off Eizouken! I thought Wonder Egg was really cool but kind of a mess in its second half, and Heavenly Delusion was great but I found certain content to be kind of gross in how it was handled tbh. Eizouken is just one of the best modern anime and the three protagonists are super fun and endearing, though kind of like Lain, not sure if that's the kind of show they'd typically watch on here since its more of a comedy than anything. Fuck it I'll throw one more in, Aggretsuko is class. More people should watch Aggretsuko.

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Aj · October 29, 2023

I really like Pyscho Pass. As someone who generally dislikes anime, I think that show does as good a job as any at feeling like a live-action series. Cool premise, interesting characters. It's not perfect (no anime is) but it's one of my favourites for sure, and a great female protagonist to boot.

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HenryM · October 29, 2023

I was in the middle of your reaction and got a news notification that Matthew Perry died?! what the absolute fuck?! I can't even concentrate on the episode now

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Darrach · October 29, 2023

I was literally in the club when I saw that.

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Komikall · October 29, 2023

I was a young teen when I watched this and was not too bothered by the age gap at the time. But rewatching it now as a young adult, it's pretty off-putting. I still honestly love the series but now I kind of wish I still had that blocked that out. The moments in this show are some of the best and most powerful but I literally was skipping through your reaction because I felt how you guys felt while watching and it was rubbing off on me. I hope seeing you guys watching future episodes in a more positive light will shake this feeling.

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Alex Doyle · October 29, 2023

There's a few aspects of this anime where I just wonder...why couldn't they have made the characters older? It's always been a real undermining element of an otherwise incredible show for me - like just age them up, they don't even look like the age they're said to be, so why go there? I'll never get it

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MJ · October 29, 2023

Yea I agree I ask this about 80% of anime’s

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Oodjee · October 29, 2023

In the novels, Violet is estimated to be 17 - 18yrs old. In the anime, they estimate her to be 14. Not sure why they made this change. Especially considering that she actually looks older.

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Robert Dirk H. · October 29, 2023

I also saw her as more 14-17, so more 16 than about 14. I think Kyoto Animation when they adjusted the script, but didn't really adjust the character design. If you look at the Announcement Trailer, which still adapted the Light Novel exactly, Violet looked the same but was 17-20. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0CJeDetA45Q

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Daniel Constantine · October 29, 2023

I never compared it to Gilberts/Violets relationship, I always saw theirs as more of a father/daughter love.

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Robert Dirk H. · October 29, 2023

In the anime, it's also a father-daughter relationship. That's probably one of the biggest changes from the book.

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Daniel Molina · October 29, 2023

Gilbert is “grown ass man” years old 😅

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Robert Dirk H. · October 29, 2023

It was never said in the anime, but yes: Violet and Gilbert are also 8-12 years apart. In the book, it's pretty much exactly 10 years. But the anime takes a completely different route with Violet and Gilbert's relationship anyway. When we get to that point, maybe we can go into a little more detail about how different the story is.

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sand_fl · October 28, 2023

well... kinda scared because i haven't had the time to watch the episode yet and it seems like it's going to be a wild one

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MJ · October 28, 2023

I remember when this episode first came out, it was the only controversial one among the show. Many people hated it many people liked it and many were in the middle. I was personally in the middle I didn’t like it, but I didn’t hate it either given the context. Especially since this show takes place way back when stuff this like use to happen especially to a princess who’s forced to marry for political reasons. Unfortunately that was just how things were back then. A perfect example is my grandma and grandpa. My grandpa was 26 and my grandma 16 when they married it’s NOT RIGHT obviously, but back then it was normalized for some odd reason.

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Danny · October 29, 2023

It's called iq average is lower back in the day. They do a lot of weird shit. Though since this is just a tv show, I usually give it a pass. He seems to be a good person and the princess likes him. Especially since the princess chose this marriage herself. It's not technically "arranged" considering she was the one that arranged it. But yeah, irl it's not a good look. I mean, is it always bad? Probably not. I'm sure there's happy couples out there with age gaps. Should it be encouraged? No

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My Toasty Toast · October 28, 2023

“Well Mr. Writer, is this how you get your sick kicks?” “What? It’s just an ordinary episode of Violet Evergarde-OH MY GOODNESS!”

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Robert Dirk H. · October 29, 2023

It's a Ms. Writer.

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ReactorHero · October 28, 2023

Still cant believe this beat ranking of kings but im actually enjoying it