The Wire 3x10 Reaction
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I’ve watched that Rawls reaction about a dozen times now…lol!
You guys are great. New patreon subscriber mostly for your The Wire reactions (and have gone back in your catalog for “Breaking Bad” [and watched you reactorverse appearance]… and have zero concerns about your opinions there…lol). A show I think you would both love is “The Queen’s Gambit. It’s less action-y than some of your shows, but it has an emotional core that I think you’d love. And Lola, there will be kids upcoming in The Wire. I hope you don’t check out. It’s not always easy, but it’s the beating heart of the series. And there is hope to be found there. Love you both.
Spoilers in comments
Anoncatman - why give spoilers away? Not cool at all.
I never equated Herc with Carver. Carver seemed like a better person than Herc but occasionally he was brought down to Herc's level due to his bad influence. What Carver needed earlier was a mentor figure in the same way that Freamon mentored Prez. He mostly didn't get that so he was stuck under the bad influence of Herc.
I always viewed Carver as the type of police that would become a product of his environment. When Burrell pushed him, he was able to get Carver to backstab Daniels. When he was around Herc, he was a shitty cop like Herc. When he was around Bunny, he started to actually evaluate what he was doing and his role in society. To me, Carver illustrates how a lot of people who are cops are pretty normal- they can be swayed to do good things or bad things with their position of authority. The problem is the institution often pushes them towards doing bad things and rewards/excuses those actions, while trying to do good things gets met with resistance. I see Herc as a dimwit who is mainly interested in himself. His bullying is to make himself feel more powerful. His lack of concern with the details of the job are because it doesn't directly effect him (or at least he doesn't realize how it effects him). He provides a great contrast to Carver- you can see how one (or multiple) bad apples like Herc can shift the entire culture and make average apples like Carver turn rotten.
...and I'm adding a second comment just to make sure that you won't be able to see the spoiler comment as one of the first two comments when you open Patreon.
Girls if you're still reading comments, there's a spoiler above
Just want to comment on Carver and the suggestion that his previous characterization in regards to the kids was unprovoked or came out of nowhere. I don't think it's necessarily that Carver had some special spot in his heart for kids that prompted his behavior, it's that Carver respects Colvin and is trying his best to make Colvin's project work. If you go back and watch season 3 from the start again, you can see from the very beginning how much Carver respects Colvin, and you can see throughout the entire season the ways in which Carver is either defending Colvin or trying to do what he feels will keep the project afloat. Colvin is attempting to mentor the younger officers under him, and while Carver takes to the mentorship, we see many of the other officers like Herc dismiss it. We can see this early in the first episode of the season 3x1 after Herc boasted to Colvin about beating the 14 year old kid that ran while Carver looked sheepish about it, establishing the different ways Herc and Carver feel about their actions when talking to Colvin. But this divergence between Herc and Carver becomes much more pronounced at the very end of 3x2 during the scene where Colvin gives his brown paper bag speech to the room full of officers. They make it a point to focus the camera on Herc and Carver as Colvin is talking. Herc looks annoyed or bored during the speech while Carver looks engaged. And right after Colvin finishes talking about the new approach they were going to take in the district, the "brown paper bag" approach that would lead to Hamsterdam, Herc and Carver are seen driving in a car patrolling the district. Herc is annoyed and angry about the new direction, asking if they aren't going to be busting up hand to hands anymore, then what are they going to be doing? Usually Carver is lock step with Herc. Usually he would agree with him. Usually he would also add his two cents, complaining about not being able to put his foot in someoness ass. But instead of saying anything, Carver just looks out the window at the drug crews on the corners, and then the episode ends. From this point, we are meant to see that Carver sees something in Colvin's vision, or sees some deficiencies in the way they have been doing things, the "Western District way," and is willing to try out Colvin's new approach. He isn't willing to openly defend it, not yet, so he remains silent as Herc complains. But eventually he does see that Hamsterdam is working, and once he has that validation, he begins to openly defend it to the other officers who are basically threatening mutiny. Putting out the various fires in Hamsterdam becomes Carver's arc through the season, both from the street level, and from his own fellow officers. When it came to the little hoppers, Carver saw that as a crack in Hamsterdam, and I think he saw his solution as plugging a leak. The little lookouts and runners are the youngest kids in the drug game and Hamsterdam basically abandoned them This created a weird bug in the system where all of the mid level dealers were making tons of cash but the kids that used to work for them were still around the drug game, but weren't making anything from it. That congregation with nothing to do would probably lead to the kids themselves drinking, doing drugs, or somehow participating in the debauchery. This was the kind of side effect of Hamsterdam that Carver knew Colvin would see as a problem. I think Carver was smart and sympathetic enough towards Bunny's vision to identify what was wrong with dozens upon dozens of kids roaming Hamsterdam aimlessly and how he could fix it. Since Carver directly reports to Colvin on Hamsterdam, and there are several scenes of Colvin asking Carver what is he doing to solve issues there, I believe this was Carver's attempt at being proactive. What's funny and totally consistent with some of Carver's previous characterization is he did probably get a little cash in it for himself (he smirked when he brought up his reimbursement for the basketball hoop and travel expenses, suggesting he might have taken a little off the top). So maybe it wasn't 100% altruistic, but he also saw it as a win win for everyone if he gave the hoppers something to do, and distributed the money around in a way that he deemed fair. He is Colvin's right hand on Hamsterdam, and his main job in Hamstersdam is to keep the peace, make sure there is no violence, and that the business is orderly without complication, and I think Carver wanted to put his best foot forward on that front out of loyalty for Colvin... or better yet... not just loyalty, but also because he doesn't want to let Colvin down. I think he genuinely wants to hear "good job" from Colvin. Throughout their conversations in season 3 there are many instances where you can see that Carver just wants to impress Colvin and make a good impression on him, which I think is what makes Colvin's speech to him this past episode land harder for Carver, knowing he was doing all of this legwork to make Hamsterdam work, but he still wasn't being the police that Bunny could admire or respect. I think it's a wake up call for Carver, harking back even to what Daniels once told him, that he would have to decide if it's going to be him or the work.
Even before this season, there were numerous examples of Carver being more open to teaching and mentorship. I don't think Daniels or Colvin would have wasted those speeches on someone like Herc.
I need episode 11
My third rewatch of the show and I'm seeing Rawls for the first time in the bar. HOW DID I MISS THIS
The Rawls reveal was so damn hilarious lmao
Rawls is fucking hilarious.
Another phenomenal episode. This season, like all the seasons so far really, just goes from strength to strength. The last two episodes of S3 are some of the best in the entire show. Can't wait.. At the start of the ep, that was Avon's crew taking out a couple of Marlo's boys. That's why we see Slim Charles walk in and do a gesture showing two fingers, to signify he got two of Marlo's people.
Just realized Season four reactions will drop around the time NFL football starts 🏈 🤗 I will be plenty entertained 😀
Great time of the year! The next 15 episodes are all great IMO!
19:02 Wow, I'd forgotten about... THAT line of dialogue 😅 There've been several instances of *less than savoury* turns of phrase from the characters in The Wire (and more to come too!). Reminds me of Mr. Robot in a way, with the stuff Darlene would come out with. I think her and Rawls would have a very interesting argument scene were there ever a crossover episode 😂
It blew my mind when i first realised the Barksdale Crew were now being surrounded from all sides: Omar, Brother Mouzone, The Police, Marlo's crew.
We're on the home straight now. 🙌🏾. The last two episodes of the season are classics. Before I watch this reaction I predict you'll say the word "honestly" 14 times. 😜
Now that you ve seen this episode , I can't wait to see if you saw the' blink and you miss it bar cameo'
The girls killing it with these uploads, thanks so much! Will begin watching right away :)
Oof I need to prepare for an exam and you drop a 1:20h wire bomb, why you gotta do me like this
prepare for the exam! watch this in breaks or after the exam and good luck🍀
