May 24, 2023

Midnight Mass 1x03 Reaction

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Mo · May 25, 2023

So now I can mention that the box from the beginning of the show is a reference to Dracula. I don't how Pruitt got on the road to Damascus; there's a demilitarized zone between the occupied Golan Heights and the border, and checkpoints all around Jerusalem. But it makes for really good parallels to the conversion of Paul, so I'll allow it, Michael Trucco (Leeza's dad) got a miracle like this in real life. He survived a really bad car accident and was paralyzed from the neck down (which necessitated some hasty rewriting of Anders plot in s4 of BSG) and he eventually healed with luck and a ton of rehab. I love the Holly Holy montage so much, it manages to be a good times montage, while inducing a feeling of dread. And how easy it is to fall into the routine of worship without really thinking about it. Of course the church is full now, Biblical literalism is usually more of a Protestant thing, but one of the things that separates Catholicism and most (but not all) Protestants is transubstantiation, that the bread and wine is literally becomes the body and blood of Jesus. Ironically, this is where the blood libel stems from. Christians turned it around on Jews after they became the socially dominant religion. Bev is really really good abusing social rules, playing the victim, and shifting the goalposts of the conversation. It's a general problem with moderates: Extremism is bad, but confronting extremism would be rude. Also, I see your supersessionism there, Bev. The 4th Step is rough on a lot of people. The fearless moral inventory of all your faults. That kind of "I'm a coward" brutal honestly is common in AA, to keep you from minimizing the impact of your actions on others (that, and the program thinks addicts have to suffer to get better. Bleh, not my thing) Joe is an example of the positive impact of belief, it wasn't the miracle that brought him to the meeting. It was Leeza confronting him, expressing her anger (that the narrative doesn't judge her for) and her forgiveness, and Paul's teachings that helps him start to recover. Hassan's faith is also presented as a good thing, even if he is projecting a little in forbidding Ali from going to church, but he does agree to talk about it as opposed to outright keeping from going. The implication that Bev poisoned Paul is accidental per Flanigan. it does look the same as when she poisoned Pike though. I think he died from too much of the vampire blood. The priest drinks the leftover wine, and he's obviously starting to crave it.

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HenryM · May 25, 2023

Your discussion about how Pruitt sees this creature as an angel because of his own world views is really interesting. He was preaching about how we humans are afraid of mysteries and try to find meaning or some type of understanding of things we can't explain. So he sees this imposible being and labels him as an angel to give this encounter some purpose, and him being the man of God that he is, has no other choice than to believe this

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Oodjee · May 25, 2023

When I saw the scene between Joe and Leeza for the first time, my first words were just "wow"... The writing is simply incredible, and the only thing that outshines it might be the performances from both of them delivering those lines. The emotions jumped right off the screen.

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sand_fl · May 25, 2023

okay, i'm too tired now to leave a proper comment (don't worry, even if no one asks for it/read it i'´ll leave a long one tomorrow. but now that you've seen the creature let me tell you something funny that happened to me a few months ago. back when i was still working on the gym i was wearing my awsome midnight mass tshit ( https://www.dtgcustomtees.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/Midnight-Mass-Vampire-Angel-Demon-Devil-T-Shirt.jpg ) when an old lady came to the desk and said to me something like "it's good to see young people still interested in church". can't remember exactly her words, but omg, i had to contain my laugh. like, that woman probably needed new glasses.

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HenryM · May 25, 2023

Ohh Milena edits these too? I thought it would be be just Lola, you know, because of the jumpscares lol

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sand_fl · May 25, 2023

lol, if i were milena i'd use that as an excuse

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cosmotron · May 25, 2023

Okay okay, final comment, just to further illustrate how terrible Bev is. She doesn’t even know Hassan’s name. In every scene she refers to him only as “sheriff”, and back in episode 1 when she thought she was talking to an old Pruitt she said that the Sheriff was named “Omar Shariff or something”. Like, there have been plenty of racist micro aggressions from other people on the island toward Hassan, but Bev Keene is so racist she can’t be bothered to learn his fucking name.

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Bless the Girl Kissers · May 25, 2023

Omar Sharif was a huge Arab actor, he was in things like Lawrence of Arabia, so it adds an extra layer of bitchy to her racism

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cosmotron · May 25, 2023

Also, I’m glad you guys have started to view it as a kind of vampire thing. When I did my first watch as soon as they said in the last one that the cats were “drained of blood” i was thinking vampires, but I totally get being stuck in the idea of ghosts lol. Also, I think it’s an interesting idea conceptually. Considering the whole ‘drinking the blood of Christ” thing.

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sand_fl · May 25, 2023

lola: "i feel like i saw the hair" the creature: https://www.nacionflix.com/__export/1632851970394/sites/debate/img/2021/09/28/midnight-mass-netflix-angel.jpg_976912859.jpg

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LM Reactions · May 25, 2023

stooppp 😂😂

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cosmotron · May 25, 2023

Also, Bev called Paul “Monsignor” at the end, not Father. 👀 Last episode she stared at an old photo of Pruitt that was hanging on the wall for a really long time. And with the shot of her putting the rat poison back again in this episode I always wondered if she was poisoning him to “prove” his miracles or something. And yeah, that scene with Leeza and Joe always makes me cry, the acting there is so good. Edit: ahhh I can see you have the same Bev thoughts! She’s truly the worst

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sand_fl · May 25, 2023

just finished the full and it looks like it's one with a long discussion. this is how i win.

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cosmotron · May 24, 2023

Oh wow that’s a lengthy discussion. Not that i can blame you, there’s a lot to talk about. Looking forward to hearing it.