Attack on Titan 4x12 Reaction

omggg pls DON'T read the first manga chapter it's basically a spoiler and you guys would put it together very quickly

I just read the first chapter of the AOT manga for the first time and i will not be reading these comments anymore. Its pretty obvious that "that panel" and the sentence that was cut out (as well as their outfits) confirms a crucial theory. And i feel so underwhelmed rn. I would have much preferred to watch it play out in part 2, than to have it just handed to me on a paper plate. LM DEFINITELY SHOULD NOT READ IT

You should read the first pages on the AOT manga to notice something that the show for some reason didn’t put in.

someone else in this comment section said it already, but you guys should read the first few pages of the first Attack on Titan chapter. The anime did it a little differently than the manga

The discussion for the next couple episodes is probably gonna be two hours long

Let the Patreons decide for a moment if this counts as a spoiler. In the manga there was one sentence more when Eren woke up in episode 1. Here is the picture: https://imgur.com/a/F18HHwH

Too many variables, I don't think there is any chance in this world that Eren and Zeke are going to meet. One of them might die before.

the 'killing innocent people' always resonate in my mind, because at the end, killing other people whether innocent or not is a problem and defies etics. Considering Marleyan and Marleyan eldians's civilians do support war, do support the extermination of people on paradis. Is something similar to Death Note ethic dilemma. Could be picky but I've always feel that way towards the 'innocent kills' phrase. Well, both shows are into defiying our conceptions of ethics, of good and bad , breaking cycles of violence, etc.

dear god can't wait for the two incoming episodes 😱😱😱

Love that ending, so epic

The scene from first episode, when eren wakes up under the three, has one important thing missing from the manga...

In case you missed, the "special chair" of darius zackary is the poop feeding chair from S3 part 1 (uprising arc).

you're not readddyyyyyyyyyy lol. its absolutely batshit from here until literally the end of the anime/manga lol. season 3B levels of crazy. enjoy!

So excited for Savagery!

times mikasa has had headaches have been when carla got eaten, when she met louise the first time, after she woke up when eren got kidnapped by reiner in s2, when she saw armin's dead body and that scene last episode. also no zeke never said he wished to restore the eldian empire he just talked about freeing the eldian ppl.

Why do they always assume the worst when it comes to Eren but they assume the best from Reiner and Bertholdt. They hated on Grisha, they doubted Eldian History (believed they did commit the horrors without any proof), and now they assume New Eldian Empire means they will attack other countries and kill innocent people... The facts are that Marley has already been said to be a warmongering country that will destroy itself from the wars. The anime has showed us that they have tried everything to avoid war, but Milena says "I don't think he does not have a choice." They mention it themselves that they don't have a choice but then still end up saying they do not agree with what Eren is doing. They look at Gabi and say they agree that Gabi has the right to "kill them all" after Eren's attack..... Welll..... what about Reiner and Bertholdt? The ones that killed 250,000+ people.... the ones that turned Paradise Island from caged birds to a living hell by breaking the walls. The show has already said they want to do something to prevent other countries from attacking Paradise, but Milena and Lola assume New Eldian Empire means committing atrocities... always assuming the worst from Paradise side, but assuming the best intentions from Marley... sigh.

Regarding if Eren has a choice or not: Remember how his conversation with Reiner went (Summarizing the points that contribute to this) Eren: I'm like you, I have no choice other than doing this Reiner: I had a choice, we could have gone back after Marcel died but I pushed us forward Eren: I'm like you, I keep moving forward Eren is a very enigmatic and mysterious character but my personal take is that he does have a choice but he wanted emotional closure to reassure himself. I mean, think about it. There was no reason he had to have a talk with Reiner strategically. Remember, Yelena imprisoned Pieck and Porco (Cart and Jaw). Zeke and Eren who planned the whole thing, could have had Reiner also go with those two and trap all three of them, but instead Eren had Falco go and get Reiner. So he clearly wanted to talk to Reiner before doing this

Devote your hearts to saving humanity ---> Devote your hearts to killing humanity

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HzSpueiBBHs

Hold up, can we talk about how beautiful milenas fit is today? God damn

There are people who react and there are people who REACT and UNDERSTAND. It's one of the many reasons I support L&M. They watch a series for the first time and try to understand it and not be biased by characters among other things. This season feels like seeing the villain in the hero (Eren) and the hero in the villain (Reiner).

I wanted the Shinzou Sasageyo chant to be overturned so badly ever since season 2. The fact that this man let the phrase get so popular by having it a focal point, right down to season 2 intro and then turned it on its head makes me so so happy. The sheer sheer discomfort. Isayama asking the audience, daring the audience to now utter Erwin’s name again. The way the writer makes the audience feel culpable is just brilliant.

¨Eren does not want revenge¨ I love that you came to that conclusion because that's exactly right. The conversation Eren has with Reiner in Liberio makes it clear that the reasons why he is moving forward do not necessarily have to do with seeking revenge (as is the case of Floch and the nationalists who are emerging in Paradis), he has already seen what is on the other side of the walls, and he sympathizes with those people ¨Inside the walls, beyond the sea, we are all the same¨. A special aspect of his character is that his actions may or may not explicitly reflect what he thinks or wants (his main motivations or the core of his most deep desires), and it is not possible to understand him until you have his POV. Eren's goals are very specific and go beyond what can be seen on the surface, the way he expresses himself and the core of his character remain throughout the whole show, and his journey is fascinating, heartbreaking, but fascinating.

Hi girls, i love you so much that why i beg you to read the first pages of the first chapter (when Mikasa wakes up Eren under the tree). The first studio didn't animate it, but it's a very important element for part two and the ending. You have one of the best interpretation , comprehension and theory on aot so I really want to see what is your thoughs on this specific part

No reaction to shirtless Eren. Girls confirmed not simps :P

Yes the jeagerists and some of the people on paradis want the “eldian empire” which is to rule over their enemies, but neither zeke nor eren has expressed that as their goal, zeke only mentioned the freedom for all eldians

You are gonna realize so many clues from season 1 once part 2 for season 4 is released you have no idea. And even if you rewatch it after you have finished part one you will catch so many hints if you are good at noticing them you will see so many. The coffee machine Zeke, Reiner and Bertholdt used is another small hint in season 3 that there is a civilization much more developed. When Armin found it he thought it was some sort of black tee. You could have figured this out by looking at the area that you have seen inside and outside the walls the climate isn’t suitable to grow coffee beans. Same things with the Herring from season 2 since herring won’t be in cans first of all the eldians are so far back I doubt they could make cans and secondly Herring isn’t found anywhere and since they are on an island far from the sea which they have never been at they can’t have gotten Herring. So that is a clue that Marley exists and many other civilizations. These are examples but the previous seasons are full of hints.

Yo, Lola is so ahead of her time in this show with her prediction discussions lol

Mikasa has had headaches periodically throughout the show. I don't remember all the specific moments but there was one in S1ep2 after Carla died and in S2ep8 when Eren got kidnapped. It could be an Ackerman thing but we haven't seen Levi or Kenny have them or mention something like that.

Thank you for understanding the irony that a lot of the members in a group called "Jeagerists" actually don't even have the same reasons/goals as Eren. The show made the difference pretty clear in the Eren-Reiner conversation from episode 5.

AoT is great but watching the first 3 seasons with the grand intros and 'Devote your hearts' one can, on a surface level, see the show as having nationalistic tendencies. But the twist they did in this episode on the 'Devote your hearts' chant really displays the show's awareness of how harmful it is to push these sort of things to the extreme until they fail to represent what they initially did.

i love how this season begins questioning and criticizing the military too. they're withholding information from the public and losing their support because it's what the nobles did before them. losing the loyalty of their soldiers with their inaction, and going behind each others backs' to try and get rid of a person they used as a weapon for years, that the people and soldiers love/respect. it was inevitable this would end in a coup against them, they've handled everything horribly. not that eren made it easy for them, but still, they basically had no doable plan for years. also i always interpreted "new eldian empire" as something less ominous (at least from people other than floch lol), the word "new" gives the impression that it won't be like the oppressive previous one.

Getting ready for another absolute breakdown from Milena and Lola next two episodes. Lol

That's what i love the most about SNK, that it mostly describes how things work, how hatred cycles are made, without actually giving a "moral" or an answer to it like " oh just do this and it will work out just fine ". Because in reality, no one knows exaclty what it would takes for humanity to stand and be unified as one. No one found out how to live 100% peacefully with one another This scene where the crowd is shouting "devote your heart" is so powerful imo because it portrays how an idea, a concept can symbolize something to someone and something different to another. Especially when time passes by. Because at first this "motto" was used, years ago when the world was so black and white. Like they were the good humanity trying to survive and titans were the evil they had to defeat. It was a chant for freedom, courage and for everyone willing to put their life on the line for the sake of humanity. I feel like this chant still symbolizes that for those people, but it's just the context that is different. Now there are no more titans, but other humans who want them dead. So they have to defeat them as well in order to survive. In their mind, they are still fighting for freedom because they found out that titans were not the real threat for their existence. But Hange and the others feel like they are doing everything they can for the greater good of their people, just like the wall cult and the nobles thought they did back when they were in power i guess. It's just like Eren Krueger said " the same mistakes over and over again ". But it's just like in real life. We've seen a lot of social issues or combats through history that have been changed in the course of time. Because you can devote your heart in your lifetime to a cause, in the end you will die at some point, and the idea you fought for will be carried on by the next generation. And this next generation is going to have to deal with this in their own context and time. So obviously you won't keep the same message deep to the core because all it takes is one person to push your idea into another direction for it to be completely misundertood. I think this is what is happening here. Now the "devote your heart" chant is being used against the OG members of the survey corps, because the way they are handling the situation doesn't seem to fulfill the needs the people feel this era has. The intentions are the same though, being able to prevail against the outside enemy. It's crazy how just details and time can turn an idea upside down and change everything. As for their reactions, i can understand why they would act like that. They basically know that the rest of the world wants or at least wanted to erase them from the existence. I'm doing a parallel with the real world here, as someone living in France, i saw how people reacted back in 2015 when terrorists attacked Paris, and then Nice etc. Of course they were some people that were shocked but kinda distant about it, like they were just trying to get over it and not talk about it too much. But most people were full of hate and wanted the people who did that dead. And a lot of people didn't mind at all if our army went in their country as retribution, in fact they would somehow cheer for it, not in a flashy way of course, but they would be like "well they kinda asked for it" or "our deads deserve justice" something along those lines. I feel like the same happened with 9/11 and i'm pretty sure we can extend this list to every similar tragedy that happened. Like, right now i'm sitting on my couch so thinking about it is kinda easy for me, i'll always tell myself that i wouldn't think like they do and be more of an Armin myself. But the truth is, if tomorrow someone really close to me die in these circumstances, i really can't predict with certainty how i would react. Hence why i love SNK so much because the human psychology it portrays feels so realistic and on point to me.

Hearing their discussion I can think only about one thing: "MMGH"

I think the military wanted to go to Historia as well just in case he goes there, not that Eren needs both her and Zeke, probably just a precaution to close off that possibility in case Eren couldnt get to Zeke

I hope you guys consider Arcane as a replacement for AoT once it's over. It's only 9 episodes and is one of the best shows of the year

I cant remember if you guys ever talked about Falco's first words in the first episode of season 4...

My opinion I think Erwin should have been chosen instead of Armin I think he could have come up with a solution to this problem and made sure it never comes to Eren going to Liberio and killing a bunch of people. I think Erwin would have possibly brought the fight to Marley but not in the way Eren did it. It’s very much speculative but I think he would have come up with a plan compared to Armin who can’t atm. And I mean specifically a plan on how to approach Marley and everything.

The remaining episodes are going to be a rollercoaster

Marleyans vs Eldians vs Jaegerists. Lmao civil war on Paradise while Marley is preparing to attack. Marley is going to have it easy if things continue like this.

Oh i can't wait for the full one, Chad Eren has entered the game.

Great reaction as always ! I wanted to share a fun fact here in case you two or some people in the comments wouldn’t know. Hajime Isayama (the Mangaka behind SNK) is a pretty big fan of Breaking Bad and even considers it a Masterpiece ! He also stated that falco’s character is directly inspired by Jesse Pinkman ! I thought about it since Milena brought up BB during the intro haha

"How the turntables" love The Office reference!

they're not ready for the next episode 😂

Pieck yayyy my favorite char that isn't Mikasa

"I started seeing birds outside thinking wtf" I can't Lola... 😂

I would love if u guys reacted to Zurik23m's Eren video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B7e3BIPdEfo&ab_channel=TUNADEN Maybe after u finish s4 part 1. Its only 5 min long and summarizes a lot of Eren's mind set

Eren and his 8 pack have arrived 😁

I know what I may say now might make some of you think I’m really weird but Eren is such a badass in this episode even if I don’t agree with everything he does anymore he is such a freaking badass. That part where he escaped prison and unifies with Floch AWSOME