Mad Men 7x10 Reaction

Are you considering the next show you'll be watching? If so please consider The Last Kingdom. You've had it in the poll a couple of years ago. It's like vikings but way better written and acted (in my opinion) and like Black Sails in that it has a large cast of very interesting and greyish characters.

Since others are discussing next drama to watch, I'm throwing "Justified" in the ring. A strong, six-season drama that's dark but not bleak, and it's entertaining as hell because every character, major and minor, is a smart-ass. And all of it centered around Timothy Olyphant in the role he was born to play.

With Mad Men coming to an end and starting to think about which shows could be included in the next poll, do we have any Sons of Anarchy fans here? I saw it's been on the girls' list on TV Time for quite a while now, maybe it has a chance of being included Sons of Anarchy, Buffy, Six Feet Under... all good options.

"A sad person lives here" is one of those lines that has stuck with me from the very first time I saw this episode. It captures so much about Don that has been obvious all along, but which has never quite been said before. When it comes to Glen Bishop, I actually don't dislike the character or plotline, he feels very natural to me as a kid growing up in the era and I always loved his very sweet friendship with Sally. He seemed like a genuine kid who felt protective and affectionate for a somebody who DESPERATELY needed a friend. And making a dumb, life-changing decision in a moment of panic to cover up a failure is a very human thing. But whoooo boy is it just off-putting to watch here, as we see him and Betty together. Funny that you mention President Bartlet in this episode, I got all seven seasons of "The West Wing" on DVD last week. They were "used" from my library when they were selling donated stock, only $36 for the whole show. BTW that guy calling himself a "heel" is an admission that he was wrong and a bad guy. It's a way of being explicit that the situation is not "You were wrong but I'm being the bigger man about it", it's him saying directly that he was The Villain.

Mad Men is a complicated, delicious, thoughtful show. It can make you squirm, it can make you laugh, it can make you cry, it can make you sigh and say "God..." three times. Glenn / Betty stuff will take up most of the thought-space probably, but it's not that complicated or interesting. It will shock nobody to hear I am a fan of Glenn and I love the story-line. It's hard to understand what the societal pressure feels like, especially in 1970, but Glenn unironically believes his choices are succeed-at-college or ship off to Vietnam. By volunteering he's seen as a hero. It is deeply fucked. Everything with Betty is just so dangerous and feels wrong but like Lola says, it all makes sense. It's just cringe. Betty being one of the only people in Glenn's life to think its dope he's shipping off to Vietnam is so funny and heartbreaking... of course she does. Betty might be my fav character in the show, she's certainly the most interesting. I wish we heard what Henry thinks. Really insightful commentary in the discussion on Don and the concept that he's never actually sat down and dreamed of the future... I'd never thought about it like this. The Don Draper we know has never had a "five year plan" or "career goals", he basically operated like 3 months ahead at any given time, fully prepared to abandon whatever he was doing if caught out or something better presented itself. It's funny that through 7A the girls felt sooo certain Don would get fired, and in 7B it's sort of the opposite: Don gets everything he wanted, his old job back with almost no friction, in some ways even better than before. In a worse show this would feel hollow and shitty (and certainly the girls felt the last 2 eps maybe didn't make the most sense) but in retrospect, I think things are a lot clearer. "Don Draper loses everything" makes a ton of sense, you can see the road ahead of you, you can write the 7 ending episodes in your head. "Don Draper gets everything he thinks he wanted" is SO much more interesting to me. He's so adrift he's asking random coworkers for their dreams lmfao. Bonus Thoughts: It's so funny seeing Roger work and be busier than we've ever seen him. Do you think he understood how much work being President of SC&P is when he pitched it? Roger jokes that he could get Don fired for "drinking anything more than a Coke" - even if it feels like a 'reset', everything that happened happened - Don's drunken failures - the past cannot be erased. "You're just handsome" has stayed with me... it's not fair but, is it completely unfair? I LOVE the idea that Don got away with stuff just because he's conventionally attractive, it's one of those "of course he did" moments.

>casts his own son in his show >makes the character a total freak what did Matthew Weiner mean by this?

We all knew what the thumbnail for this episode would look like lmao

Rewatching that scene in the Chinese restaurant, Don acts completely fine to me. He doesn't lead Sally's friend on in any way. She attempts to flirt with him but he never reciprocates. He also generally seems interested in what everyone at the table wants to do with their future (as he struggles to figure out what he's going to do with his). There's no disdain with idea of them going to protest. He's just a good, normal dad in that scene. Sally's looking at Don through the prism of catching him with Sylvia + just seeing Betty with Glen so I understand her reaction - Sally's such a grown-up in this episode. But I think we see a rare instance of actual parenting from Don which is another sign of his progress. When Sally says something hurtful he doesn't lose it or scream at her, and then gives her a real send her off moment of "now it's up to you to be more than that".

The bad news is Glenn is shipping off to Vietnam. The good news is Glenn is shipping off to Vietnam.

The english word/expression for the serbian word you know is self-deprecation or 'being self-deprecating'

Don Draper lives in The Bubble: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BcCICtOlhWk

Agree, will not work to take what Don says and say it. Betty = tragic figure. Static. Not going forward or advancement. "Betty not changing with the times." "I love kids, but I raised mine already… I'm done with that part of my life." "You're a very beautiful girl. It's up to you to be more than that."

Glen truly is the maddest man. Very hyped for next episode though. If you know you know.

It's a Betty episode... everything will be fine:)

Following the trend of this season's humiliation rituals, now you have January Jones aka Betty being subjected to a scene with Glen who is played by "Mad Men" creator Matt Weiner's son Marten Weiner. God, I really hate Glen's character and to top it off his incredibly wooden acting and his creepy Xanax stare. I've never seen that scene fully, never will.

Glen Bishop, man. For some reason I love the little weirdo. After watching your reaction to ep 9 I had to refresh my memory of these last eps to confirm they were good and I hadn't misjudged 7B completely lol. First couple of episodes are definitely a bit rough, jarring how far removed they feel from 7A while throwing in some new characters that don't really work, but I think we're in the clear now. Solid episode here, and nothing but amazing ones through to the end now imo.

I only ever watched that Glen scene once and that was enough for me. The second hand embarrassment is too much

Glen Bishop knew who he was from a very early age

Really feel like the writers hate Betty.

Lmao the thumbnail