Mad Men 5x12 Reaction

monday frieren is hereeee

Don fired Lane for forging his signature, when Don himself always forges his own signature.

So far in this season we've seen Harry, Peggy and Ginsberg all be asked for favours from Roger and their immediate response was to make him get his wallet out. A much wealthier man is asking them to do something, of course they're going to capitalise on it. It's a huge contrast to the way Lane views money. If Roger had pulled out his wallet and started counting out cash in front of Lane, he probably would have wanted to kill himself right there and then. Doing something like that would be seen as extremely socially inappropriate in upper-class British society, and that's the culture Lane was raised in. Don would not have thought twice about giving him a loan, but to Lane it would have been deeply embarrassing. Telling people you have a financial problem or asking for help goes against everything he's been raised to believe about how a proper British gentleman is meant to behave.

I think LM watched Chernobyl. I had seen MM before Chernobyl and suffered disproportionately in the Chernobyl first scene/sequence for the echoes here

Tis a shame Jared harris superior acting skills were wasted on such a subpar bore of a show

What you have to consider here is the fact that Don commits fraud every time he signs as Don Draper.

A couple episodes ago we saw Don cut a check at the Jaguar dealership as collateral in case anything went wrong in his joyride with Joan. He wrote the check without a second thought. Less than half the amount of that check saves Lane's life.

Looking forward to Mad Men and Andor.

Don't suffer in silence, gentlemen. Talk to someone when the going gets tough. A phenomenal episode. A tragic way for Lane to depart. Another suicide and death of someone close to Don.

No Andor until Thursday.......Y'all killing me here.

2 episodes in a row whereby the end of it, they're left speechless

When you lot said you were embarking on this journey this was the very first episode I thought of. The actor, Jared Harris is legit. Just recently did a rewatch of fringe and he had a rough go of it there too lol.

Just gonna post this screenshot from 4x6 for your consideration: https://i.imgur.com/rbaPx7m.png

I'm very sorry to say it but Lane's Jaguar stalling is one of the funniest things I've ever seen. Some great writing advice I heard one time: In an argument, characters have a quiver of arrows on their back. Each arrow is a different way of advancing their argument. They can try being angry, or lying, or employing guilt, or sympathy... And at the end of the scene, their quiver should be empty. They should use up every possible arrow. I don't know if I've ever seen a better example of this than Lane's confession scene with Don. He tries everything -- he denies it, gaslights Don, flatters him, invokes their friendship, breaks down crying, everything -- until he's all out of arrows. On a totally different note, boy do I love the cinematography in that sequence where Sally and Glen visit the museum. And the snow falling outside the window of Lane's office. Really gorgeous stuff. I guess that's what happens when you let the DP direct an episode.

"Uh hey, is this Actual Jaguar PR? Yeah, Matthew Weiner with Mad Men here. Yeah, we're gonna portray your executive as a scumbag sleazeball needing sex as a payoff to close a deal, your cars as temperamental shit cans, and a main character is going to try to kill himself with one, but it won't start. Have a good day." Actual Jaguar PR: "Fuck"

Yo, did Betty lose the weight in 2 months? It was Thanksgiving when she went to her weight meeting. The story is now in January/February, and the weight is poof, gone????? Or, am I blind?

"They're lemons, they dont start" - Bert Cooper, S5 E5 (but also callback to S1 E3 & S4 E6 re. the Volkswagen Lemon ad)

I thought LM said that they were GOING TO SIT on The Other Woman for about 10 days. And, here we are with another reaction. YAY!!!!! They thought they were out.......but MM pulled them back in.

So striking that Lane clearly felt that asking for help would be SO humiliating that he'd rather lie and steal from people who trusted him, it says so much about how he was raised.

That final scene with don and glen kills me

Glen gets a lot of flak as a character, with a lot of the blame put on his actor's performance, but I honestly love his relationship with Sally here. It's cute, and it gives both of them a healthy, safe outlet to talk and get the support and friendship which they can't get at home. A great little point which the episode doesn't dwell on much is that Sally says she wishes that Henry would leave Betty. Not that Betty would leave Henry, but that HE would leave HER. Sally's relationship with her mother is just so broken that she wishes her step-father would 'get away' and hurt her mother on the way out. I think Betty dealing with Sally's first period is her best demonstration of motherhood so far in the entire series. She's kind, and understanding, and supportive. She stops shouting and doesn't blame Sally for leaving NYC or taking a cab. In a better world, she was this kind of mother all the time. _______________________________________________________ I wrote this next part a few years ago when I first watched this series (copied verbatim): I do have to applaud Mad Men for the way they laid out the Responsibility for Lane Pryce in season 5. It would be very easy to say that Don is To Blame because of the way he dismissed Lane instead of sweeping it under the rug or giving him another chance. Don is already a truly despicable person, who has abused and betrayed everybody he claims to hold dear, so it would not have been untoward to say that he overreacted here. To say that this is another example of his villainy and callousness, and to view Lane as just another victim. Except that what Lane did was illegal AND unethical (Both). It’s the kind of thing that can singlehandedly take down the entire company because if word gets out it can lead to financial investigations, and that can stop work completely in and of itself as the investigation proceeds. To say nothing of the way the loss of reputation would also stop everything, just like the news of them losing Lucky Stripe caused several other clients to walk away as well. Lane jeopardized the livelihood of everybody working at SCDP, and all over his own pride. Don was extremely gracious in giving him the chance to resign without any exposure, and with a clear head Lane could have used his position to get another job at another firm. It might have even -- theoretically -- been better for him, because if he got a non-partner position with a signing bonus he might actually take home more cash with less expenses. He’s got a sterling reputation and he actually is very competent in his field, so truth be told he’s probably in the best job-seeking position he’s ever been in. However, though Don’s actions in that one scene were very kind and forgiving, everything that lead up to it throughout the season helped contribute to what happened. Lane and Pete Campbell were the only partners who didn’t come into this venture previously wealthy, and Don paid Pete’s share himself when things got tight and they needed another investment. Yet Don expected Lane to shoulder it all himself despite knowing that he wasn’t in much better shape than Pete. He might not have known just how desperate Lane was, but he definitely knew that things weren’t rosy and yet he never offered to help. Oh, sure, he would have agreed to help if Lane had asked, but Lane absolutely had to have asked. Don didn’t care enough to find out for himself how tightly strapped Lane was. He took Lane for granted as a business manager and didn’t think of anything more beyond it. He knew that Lane was good with money, because he was good with Agency’s money, and he never considered that that didn’t extend to personal money. Because a $1 million check written to SCDP is spent by SCDP, it doesn’t just fall into Lane Pryce’s pocket. And that casual disregard, that habit of not even noticing what’s going on, is what set Lane up for his downfall.

Their reaction when they see Don letting Glen drive at the end❤️. Love that scene so, so much. In episode 7 while on the phone with Sally, Glen actually mentions the band ('The Lovin' Spoonful') that's playing in that scene.

I find it fitting that roger and don the two men still in a way plagued by things they saw and experienced in their respective wars are the ones able to handle taking down lanes body

Lane ❤️ 💙

Lane was too decent to deal with these hooligans. He's a METS fan for chrissakes. We need all the Mets fans we can get.

I wouldn't be surprised if Don had a weight hit him when he was told about Lang's suicide, and it being another death he can put on himself, after the real Don and his brother Adam.

This is paraphrasing, but I've seen it said the green Jaguar can represent Lane in the season. English, ill-suited to America, and broken down.

"Who's signing this anyway?" THAT GUY is questioning someone forging something. Okay.

Certainly didn't expect mad men today! Not complaining though sorry frieren fans

Everytime I hear your pre-episode predictions, the phrase i keep hearing in my mind is "Honey, you got a big storm coming".

Can we get this Saturday a Monster Reaction as replacement? 🥲

I've seen debates about this but I think Don was very fair and lenient in his dealing with Lane. He couldn't keep him in the company because of the fundamental breakdown of trust, but Don also could have called the police and told the other partners, thus destroying his reputation, ending his career, and leading to likely jail time. He didn't do that and basically tried to get Lane to see some positivity by saying that starting over is the hardest part, implying that this is just a hurdle that he will have to overcome. Maybe subconsciously, Don is thinking about the misdeeds he committed as Dick and how starting over lead to a better life.

We should honestly make it Mad Men Mondays and demand the girls work like MAPPA to get Frieren out on the same Friday. I think it’s a completely reasonable and realistic goal given that Frieren will negate any mental anguish of such a stressful turnaround time

Lane breaking his glasses is a huge flag for anyone wanting to kill their self. Destroying or giving away personal possession as if they're depleting their own identity. But... the jaguar not turning on and poor Lane trying to fix it with one half of his eye glasses is probably the funniest dark comedy I've seen in a very long time.

Happy Mad Men Friday!... Or is it?

These last two episodes are like two punches in the gut, sorry guys. Mad Men will never be the same after Lane is gone.

Keep losing people :( I really liked Lane

Frieren Mondays... doesn't have the same ring to it :(

I'm sorry you guys lol

Frieren + Haikyuu Fridays? We are so back?

Ah yes. This one. Jared Harris is an actor who, if I know he's in it, I will want to watch it. He is just exceptional in everything.

Truly some Saturday Sadness having to wait for Frieren and longer for Andor. I blame Pete for this