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March 19, 2025

So... Stretch Goal question

So because I'm irrationally skeptical of my own success, I sorta didn't plan out any real stretch goals for the Dark Science Kickstarter.

For those who are backing or are interested in backing, what kind of stuff would you like to see? Examples include (at the lower end) new sticker sheets included in every order, new patches, reprints of older books (The Tomorrow Girl is basically sold out!), or even printing new companion books for every order, like a new Dark Science primer/art book.

Honestly though, throw anything at the wall, the sky's the limit. Maybe at $500k we make Kim's cool jacket for the store. Maybe if we reach a million dollars I'll develop a Dark Science point and click adventure game, etc.

What kind of stuff would you guys be interested in?

Comments (62)

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Bernard · March 21, 2025

How about a slightly interactive single dresden codak comic? Something to enjoy the art of and lazily play around with at the same time. Click and Watch some characters run up to someone. Or toss melcheor across the pages, back and forth. Etc.

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Bernard · March 21, 2025

Kind of letting the viewer break the fourth wall

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Bernard · March 21, 2025

A dark science visual novel would be awesome but imho difficult. Should it be short, so we could play all the paths and get to see all the art? Should it be long as some ppl would expect? How much work and time would tons of drawings be until you can string them into a novel? Would it be feasable without hiring help?

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Bernard · March 21, 2025

I have seen comic prints on canvas material with a frame for wall decoration and they look great and fancy and would be awesome with some of your work

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Senna Diaz · March 20, 2025

So this will be up tomorrow as a Kickstarter update if you're already a backer, but I thought I'd give you cool cats an early heads-up: I WILL be opening up a few more tiers of "Junior" Northstar and "Junior" Giantslayer, just without the Tomorrow Girl books included, but they're going to be in pretty small supply (25 copies for Northstar and 100 for Giantslayer). So if you wanted to grab one of those, keep an eye on that for tomorrow morning!

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Aurorachimera · March 21, 2025

I already have the Silver Edition of Tomorrow Girl, so Junior Giantslayer is ideal.

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Brad · March 20, 2025

Reprints of prior books would be fantastic.

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Senna Diaz · March 20, 2025

It'll have to be a pretty high stretch goal, but I'd like to do that!

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Awkward Dragon · March 20, 2025

I still need Tomorrow Girl >.>

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Tao Gold · March 20, 2025

I would love to see the sticker set or the like turned into little jpg/gif/png that can be used as avatar pictures for my windows login, patreon profile etc! I’ll be honest, I took the dept of opposition logo and made it small so I could use it as my windows login picture, I work in IT and it makes me happy everytime I see it.

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Roo · March 20, 2025

Is there something we could get you? Knowing that you are happy, comfortable and have all your needs met is important to my enjoyment of your art.

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Torabi · March 20, 2025

Pizza Dungeon. Anything Pizza Dungeon. Shirt? Cloth napkins? Stickers? Magnets? Anything with their logo would be great! I want to be a pizza master!

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GearedForMusic · March 20, 2025

I replied with this in a different comment, but high quality pngs that can be used as backgrounds? maybe of scenery or also characters specifically formatted to look nice in those asepct ratios?

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Jarrod Rose · March 20, 2025

Lapel pins. ALLLLLLLLL the lapel pins!

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Rob Scott · March 19, 2025

An adult coloring book, and by adult I mean more sophisticated and not like “for adult audiences only” (although a little tasteful PG-13 work would be in-theme). I work in a bookstore, and complex, sophisticated coloring books are popular.

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Dezz · March 19, 2025

My 2 cents: Figures and apparel are the dream, and enamel pins and stickers never disappoint. My rising sun patch is on my favorite jacket, so the Official Licensed Product version would be crazy to own lol

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aran · March 19, 2025

I am bummed I didn't get the Giantslayer edish with Tomorrow Girl physical - would be thrilled to add it on (I have the PDF but have since done a full 180 on my "don't clutter your life with physical media" policy from however many years ago)

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Senna Diaz · March 19, 2025

I'm working on a solution to this, stay tuned!

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GrimmSalem · March 19, 2025

Would love it if we can get at least a nice STL of some of the characters we can print ourselves

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Jacob Kessler · March 19, 2025

I'll second that some printable stuff - characters, symbols, items - would be great and seemingly in-theme. Plus, no physical production / distribution means low per-backer costs so it's easier to add to each pledge rather than requiring an addon

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Preppikoma · March 19, 2025

"Tomorrow Girl", but a 12x16” version, to match the dimensions of Platinum "The City of Giants". Perhaps, an option to change the TG version in the current pledges, which would free the regular-smaller ones to become optional add-ons? And pins.

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Raine the LEGO cat · March 19, 2025

Probably not a great stretch goal idea, but I'd love a process timelapse, love how DS evolved over the years and want to know how you're currently doing it <3

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tagno25 · March 19, 2025

"Legally Obligated Gay Drawing" and "Legally obligated Extra Gay drawing" in print

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K Monika Hawkinson · March 19, 2025

Sen, I love your scenery! I would love to see a compilation of scenery and vistas, and maybe even a map of Nephilopolis? Call me crazy, but I want to see the bones of the Giants!

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Mel Orr · March 19, 2025

I second a map of Nephilopolis! I always need to know where everything is in relation with everything else.

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Wtcher · March 19, 2025

Rationally? I’m not sure you really need more stretch goals. The project is a success :) If anything, things that are low impact — low logistical needs, you don’t want to find new ways to torpedo your project. Irrationally? I’d love some sketch tiers, some commission tiers. Maybe some people would enjoy watching a stream of you completing some artwork. Maybe something like character art (e.g. in the mode of band posters — here’s team evil, here’s team Kim) would be cool, and could be recurring revenue content in the future. Perhaps donations (books to libraries, funds to appropriate charities) would be swell.

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Peter Scheyer · March 19, 2025

I want dungeons and discourse pins!

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Wtcher · March 19, 2025

Gosh, dungeons and discourse renditions of popular classes. I remember being mildly disappointed I couldn’t play that game. :)

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Liophora · March 19, 2025

Not super into patches and badges, but posters, prints and stickers are always good, ditto more books or a reprint of the shinier version of the Tomorrow Girl. The jacket idea is cool, and a decent cyborg pride laptop satchel might be neat but might be tricky Love the idea of a point & click game but for your sanity I dunno how much of a good idea that is 😅 As others have said though, I backed at the level I did to get the things I wanted with no expectation of more, so I'd be happy even without stretch goals. Enjoy that sweet sweet profit from your labour that you put out into the world for free ^_^

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Liophora · March 19, 2025

Heck, prints/posters of the gay and extra gay drawings would be sweet :3

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Senna Diaz · March 19, 2025

Maybe at $300k I make "official" game art for Streets of Frasier...

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Mel Orr · March 19, 2025

Shut up and take my money![/Fry]

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Conduit of Snacks · March 19, 2025

On the one hand, I'd love a Cyborg Pride (edit: and Dark Science) challenge coin (I love coins). On the other hand, I'd warn against going crazy with physical rewards especially; they have been the bane of many Kickstarters past. Regardless, I'm delighted for your success!

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Senna Diaz · March 19, 2025

Oh I'll certainly be cautious. The nice thing about working with Topatoco for this is that they're pros at Kickstarters and will keep me from throwing myself off the edge

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Jordi · March 19, 2025

I love the pin idea! Departments or the faves from the latest sticker sheet. I already have a tattoo for this, no reason not to add Kim to my jacket! Outside of the Kickstarter, Kim's jacket (in plus sizes) in the store would be an easy auto-purchase for me!

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Senna Diaz · March 19, 2025

It's always been my dream to have a cool jacket like Kim's, I'm glad I'm not the only one

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Hugh Eckert · March 19, 2025

Stickers and pins. And I like the idea of you treating yourself to cake as a stretch goal.

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Sn4ptr4n · March 19, 2025

The jacket would be an absolute immediate purchase

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Birdcat 🏳️‍⚧️ 🖤🩶🤍💜 · March 19, 2025

I love stickers!

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maillesmith9 · March 19, 2025

Tomorrow Girl reprints would be lovely. At some point in the last 12 years and 5 moves my copy went MIA

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Weston Clowney · March 19, 2025

Same. 🫤

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John Whitley · March 19, 2025

I already have The Tomorrow Girl Freakin' Ginormous Edition, so no worries there... but for the love of all that's decent, upgrade the Sen name stickers to archival cloth and ink if they're not already.

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Jesse Garrison · March 19, 2025

I kind of like crowdfunding that doesn’t go crazy with stretch goals. We’re here to fund the new book. Adding things that take a lot more development time outside of the scope of the project almost inevitably leads to delays. If you already have sticker sheets designed and just need to increase the print run, that’s fine. Reprinting the previous book, also seems doable. Development of a computer game or whatnot seems like a headache waiting to happen. New patches if you already have contacts for production and would just need to draw up the design also seems reasonable.

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Senna Diaz · March 19, 2025

Oh for sure. I learned a lot from the last Kickstarter, and this time around we're not going to realistically offer anything that I don't already have a design for, or have the means to realistically put out with the book.

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Matt Grayson · March 19, 2025

Tomorrow Girl Book, please!

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Orion Rhine · March 19, 2025

I've said it before and I'll say it again: PINS Get me some department pins!

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DasGanon · March 19, 2025

Honestly I would love a Kim styled vintage looking nylon jacket, but I would want that as a store item not part of the campaign.

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DasGanon · March 19, 2025

Really I've got what I want, but more books & art would be awesome!!!

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Joe · March 19, 2025

What about posters (e.g. of the desktop wallpapers) or prints from the comic?

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Alex Macgregor · March 19, 2025

Stickers or a patch would be awesome, but be careful not to eat into your take too much with free goodies for us backers. Is it possible to add goodies like these to the optional extras section? That might be a clever way of getting people who want the new items to revise their pledges and make more impulse addons.

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Senna Diaz · March 19, 2025

We'll almost definitely be doing that too! What's nice about working with Topatoco is they've run countless Kickstarters at this point (though I was their very first!) and have all the financial calculations down to a science

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Tiogshi Laj · March 19, 2025

* Matthias Melchi-orb "snowglobe". * Figurine/statue of Kim & Ling, inspired by last panel of DS #145

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Joe · March 19, 2025

I love the snowglobe idea

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Aeryn Light · March 19, 2025

Tomorrow Girl reprints as an addon, maybe give a Tomorrow Girl pdf to every tier. I missed out on it somehow, and I have been a fan for over a decade.

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Monist-1 · March 19, 2025

How about D&D 5e character sheets for various characters? (inspired by Dungeons & Discourse perhaps?)

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Senna Diaz · March 19, 2025

Oh dang, I forgot: would people be interested in a Department of Opposition patch? I feel like that would be cool

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Info_Overload · March 19, 2025

Yes!

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Info_Overload · March 19, 2025

I'd be interested in some more patches and pin badges! I still love my cyborg pride ones from the Tomorrow Girl 😃

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Francesco Villani · March 19, 2025

Ok, serious talk, I would LOVE Kim's jacket. I'm guessing a more sensible options would be more patches, more standees (My vote goes to "Do you not recognize Death?" Kim) and such.

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Senna Diaz · March 19, 2025

Awesome! I've got some fun ideas for standees, and would definitely like to do something with that Giantslayer-style Kim design

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j r conlin · March 19, 2025

You mean, other than you being happy and successful? I mean, you could get yourself a slice of cake or something, I suppose.

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Emily · March 19, 2025

Personally, I'd love some stickers!