November 21, 2025

Don’t Let the Gaming Executives Normalize AI | Unpacked

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Tim Wilson · November 24, 2025

I can only really comment on this from my own Profession, but in the legal sphere, which is mostly entirely data driven, AI is constantly pushed and constantly failing. The makers of the products rarely actually understand the market and at best you get a slightly incompetent, but very quick, PA. But I’m sure using it for incredibly complex computing creation and artistic endeavours can only be an unqualified success(!)

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Ryallen · November 21, 2025

There *should* be nuance in this topic and there *can* be good uses for generative AI in the hands of creatives but the main problem is that it creates far more problems than it solves. There are a couple of content creators online that are able to use it in a way that's fun and harmless (as harmless as this sort of thing can be, that is) but too many people are going to use it to replace actual workers, solve problems that AI shouldn't be asked to solve, or even purposes more nefarious like, say, forging evidence. People who are in favor of AI are too focused on what it could be rather than what it is and what it is is facilitating mass layoffs, polluting the planet, and spreading misinformation about just about anything. I think the best nuanced take we can have about this is to not condemn people who *have used* AI (case by case, of course) and to condemn those who advocate for it. (possibly case by case but probably not) You're not a bad person if you used AI for a personal project or to help you save time in something that shouldn't need that much supervision but if you're out here saying that AI is the future then I don't know what to tell you but the future is really bleak at the moment and we should probably try to prevent that

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Paul Evans · November 23, 2025

A good nuanced example is Cyberpunk 2 using it *with full consent of SAG actors* to spoof voices during iteration in writing/development. They are then going to get those actors to record the lines properly at the end. Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ocpXZyYdnJQ&t=42m

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dateariane · November 21, 2025

"Whispers from the Star" is the first true agentic AI game that I know about. This is the dream: an AI driven NPC you can literally talk to. It has not gone well for the indie developer that made it. All the "let's play" videos I've seen are exercises in frustration. Now Microsoft wants to turn Windows into this?

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Brian S · November 21, 2025

The key is the belief that AI will learn to fix its mistakes or won't make them in the first place. Whether or not that happens is still unknown. I'll stick with older games, independent developers, and specific companies.

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Colonel Sandurz · November 21, 2025

Word. Never been a better time to start on the old backlog or revisit some retro classics.

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SCP 3887B · November 21, 2025

So, does this effect your guys opinion on games like The Alters or Arc Raiders? I see a ton of people calling out CoD and other games like it, but continuing to praise these 2 games. You ask me, sometimes to stand up for something you believe in, means you have to stop playing games you might like or even love.

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Second Wind · November 21, 2025

You probably won't like my answer, but the use cases were different for all three games. Arc Raiders uses it for its Ping System with contracted voice actors who knew going in their voices would be used to train their system for that, The Alters used it for placeholder background art (so they say) and Call of Duty straight up used it as final assets for their calling cards to, I suppose, reduce the cost of paying artists for all the different calling cards they make, of which there are a lot. I do think there's nuance to it - Nick

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Dread Pirate Mittens · November 21, 2025

Maybe AI should replace a few executives. It can offer legal advice apparently.

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Ronny Cook · November 21, 2025

Yes, and certain lawyers who have submitted AI-generated briefs containing hallucinated case references and been sanctioned as a result have seen how that turns out... On the other hand, executives making unoriginal and derivative decisions would be nothing new. Increasing the bottom line by sacking your most expensive (and critical in the long term) workers is a trope for a reason. AI in its current form is the ultimate yes-man. If you ask it to solve a problem, it will generate a solution, and if it needs to invent facts for the solution to work, it will happily do so.

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YellaChicken · November 21, 2025

In answer to the question about how they think losing all their coding talent just to have to hire it all back again for more money later is going to go, most Execs don't care about that. That's a future Execs problem. Company "wants" (not needs) are often driven by shareholders who just want to see "number go up, fast". They want to buy shares, see them increase in value and then sell them. Execs that facilitate this get nice fat bonuses and then leave to go to another firm with a big green tick on their CV against the "provides shareholder profit" box. Shareholders and chairmen are the ones hiring these Execs, so the ones that work for short term gain are the ones that get hired. This is what modern capitalism has morphed into. Everything is temporary, and to be milked for maximum gain over minimum time. It fucking sucks.

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David C · November 21, 2025

Agentic AI probably refers to agents; an instance of AI trained for a specific job basically. But yes, you do need to know and understand what the AI is producing, cuz you gotta be able to fix it if it's wrong, and you need to be more creative anyways rather than just derivative to really solve the human nuances of the problems you're working on. I will say that it does save me time as a developer if I hand it monotonous tasks or if I need a starting point for research into an unfamiliar system; but I treat AI as junior developer that is very eager to help. I'm gonna be double checking its work and changing it to match what I'm doing.

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Ubersupersloth · November 21, 2025

Why not? It’s automating a job and copyright law is cringe anyway. I suppose there’s the environmental aspect which is fair enough, though.

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Grump Chan · November 21, 2025

Do you believe every job needs to be automated, especially in the creative field? And do you have any reasons why copyright law is bad?