POLL: Subscription/One-Time Purchase Mods
Edit: Conclusion https://www.patreon.com/posts/conclusion-one-157900845
A popular opinion among people is that players don't want mods as monthly subscriptions.
But I think this is incorrect. I think they are just loud minority.
I think most people would prefer 1 USD/Month subscription over 25 USD one-time payment.
Why?
Game updates break mods/plugins. It is not possible know how long it is going to work as user.
If there is a problem with mod or you don't play the game anymore you can cancel the subscription. But if you pay once it will be waste of money.
Also not everyone can pay 25 USD but everyone can pay 1 USD/Month. Not every country has opportunity to pay 25 USD.
To see what you prefer as player I decided make this poll.
Do you prefer paying 1 USD/Month and cancel it anytime you want?
Or do you prefer 25 USD once and keep using same license key without paying again?
Edit: Also the reason I don't add one-time purchase because not everyone is good with their money, I don't want them to waste their money. There are 3-6-12 months options but lifetime license is just a promise feels impossible to keep.
Comments (101)
I have paid for the 1 month and have not been able to login, it keeps telling me I'm not subscribed.
estou testando posteriormente quem sabe!
You have many Brazilian subscribers, don't set it up as a one-time purchase, it becomes too expensive for us. Try offering it both ways.
Compra única ao meu ve!
It's unfortunate that for me, as a Brazilian, it becomes too expensive. But keep both options to please a larger number of people.
Como posso fazer pra pegar?
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no pues wo
I have a question. If I purchase the annual license, wouldn't it include any updates required during the year the license covers?
It will include all updates
Both! So people can CHOOSE how they spend their money accordingly...
I hate subscription with a passion, it just silently leeches all your money away. Much rather pay the 25 one time, then having all these silent subscription taking your money month after months
I noticed that in the latest version 1.59, enabling plugins causes the screen to stutter intermittently. What's going on with that?
I think you should give both options. I rather pay 25 dollar
options to have both in a free society are especially important today where different people have different needs and expenditures, too often now bigger companies use payment methods almost as a weapon in our increasingly totalitarianist society, it might only be a small software program bu it all adds up
Para mim, mensal ta bom. Posso parar quando quiser
Of course, a monthly subscription is more convenient for you as the creator, since it encourages you to stay active, keep the product updated, and also provides a steady monthly income. At the same time, from the users’ point of view, a one-time purchase is clearly more cost-effective than a subscription in the long run. After all, after 25 monthly payments, the user ends up paying more than with the one-time option. And to be fair, many people are simply tired of endless subscriptions nowadays. Also, as you can see, drawing conclusions so quickly about the “13% vocal minority” in the emails sent to users was somewhat premature. As of the morning of 11 May 2026, around 48% of voters already support either a one-time purchase or having both options available. So, if the goal is to honestly listen to the community, offering both options would probably be the most reasonable solution. I also doubt that people who buy a lifetime license would demand refunds if SCS eventually makes the mod unnecessary. This can simply be mentioned before purchase, and buyers can decide for themselves. And judging by the poll results, even if both options are available, a large portion of users would still choose the subscription model anyway. So you would still have strong motivation to continue improving and supporting the mod. Overall, having both options available seems like the best compromise for everyone. And honestly, I’m also grateful for this poll. It gives both users and mod creators something interesting to think about.
I think lifetime purchase for something requires constant updates and with future not predictable is wrong idea from the beginning. It doesn't make sense at all. It is an extortion method for short term used by companies/people. I did this poll because I always believed people have no issue with subscription. But if you look at popular opinion it looks like subscription hated. Mainly I wanted to prove that. And because 87% has no issue with subscription I decided to continue with that. Also I don't think most people are going to use it more than 25 months even I kept updating the plugin. A few hours was more than enough for people. It was 1000 votes when I made the second post and after 200 votes results didn't even change more than 1-2%, One-Time Purchas option was always going down. Because with random 200 people poll shows accurate result as much as 100000 people. Only reason One-Time Purchase option increased 2% later because of second post I made when I decided to continue with subscription only.
One Time Purchase best option, please add Indian Payment Method like UPI or Rupay Debit Card, I don't have Credit card or PayPal
prefiro 1 dólar por mês, ale de ser muito caro 25 dólares aqui no Brasil para um plugin tem o perigo de quebrar, atualmente o snowmoon é o melhor dos plugins de gráfico, mas se aparecer outros melhores, gastei 122 reais a toa, o preço de uma pequena compra no supermercado VOU DE UM DÓLAR COM CERTEZA.
Definitely 1 dollar per month. Dont forget, it keeps Snowy motivated to make mod working or doing it even better. For example: imagine - if u have all money at one time on your account for lifetime, do you still want to spent a lot of time on making mod better and better? Why, you already have the money. Snowy I like you, its not against you, just saying how majority of people thinking.
deberias de poner ambos, los que jugamos casual nos sirve el de 1 dolar ya que jugamos poco, solo lo compramos cuando queremos jugarlo, y para los que siempre juega les funciona el de 25$ ya que a ellos se les hace más facil hacer un pago y no preocuparse más por eso. muchas gracias por estar informandonos,
Although i have expressed the opinion of preferring a one-off payment in the past, i suppose ultimately i'm not too fussed about it to be honest. But crikey, that seems to have been an extremely short survey window! When i was last online this morning (UK timezone) the survey wasn't even up and running, and i've just logged in again now and already missed out on any chance to vote.
I mean I am pretty sure 1000 votes is enough to get a nice result :D Poll is still active, you can still vote but probably it is not going to change that much even with 100000 votes
A monthly subscription is the most reasonable choice, as you wrote, not everyone will be able to collect 25 USD, but everyone should collect 1 USD, do not change what works perfectly
$25 one time purchase
How long the plugin works is entirely dependent upon the user. I personally bought the year sub and then locked my `G:\SteamLibrary\steamapps\appmanifest_270880.acf`, `G:\SteamLibrary\steamapps\common\American Truck Simulator\bin\win_x64\amtrucks.exe`, `G:\SteamLibrary\steamapps\common\American Truck Simulator\bin\win_x64\steam_api64.dll` in the read-only state so it can never update until I tell it to. Would it be cheaper to do the 1 month sub and lock it? Yes, but then where would I been in 6 months when I decide to upgrade the game and you have possibly stopped developing because people weren't supporting it? Take away either option and you are just hurting yourself in the end.
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25 dollar lifetime
Long term is better to use the one time purchase but in the short term a monthly subscription, I think that you should add 2 options
My only issue with monthly subscriptions is that I am NOTORIOUS for forgetting about them. Did you just send your poll to people who already own Snowymoon? Or everyone who has tried it (like on free Sundays)? If the former, then you probably biased your results... If the latter, do you see a difference in the answers? Just curious.
Sent it to everyone, 26k paid - 57k free members of patreon
Having the option for both is a great idea, as it gives the user the freedom to choose what fits better for them. I personally don't mind the monthly subscription because the work being done is worth it, and worth backing the developer. Just as a reflection of gratitude to Snowy Moon, thank you for always keeping us up to date and being so transparent as well as just being so awesome for the modding you have shared with us, to allow us to experience the sims in a way that brings realism much closer. You have been a real blessing to the simulation community, so, thank you and many blessings :)
Estoy de acuerdo pagar $1 al mes tienes razón que no todo el mundo tiene la posibilidad de pagar los $25 de por vida está muy bien cómo va $1 mensual no perjudica a nadie personas que ya lo dejan de jugar si pagan $25 es cierto que será dinero desperdiciado es mejor pagar $1 al mes y si ya no juegas pues ya no pierdes mucho dinero no cambies esa facilidad de $1 mensual por favor que siga así gracias
J'ai payer 25 dollars pour l'avoir à vie plutôt que 1 dollar par mois pendant 5 ans.
I don't have US$25, so, I prefer to pay US$1, is better to all.
The 1-dollar product was perfectly fine. Why are you changing the system? Whoever said it wasn’t logical should pay 25 dollars themselves. We were perfectly happy with 1 dollar.
Acho que poderiam deixar as duas opções aí quem quiser pagar assinatura assina.. quem quer comprar vitalício compra.
Conclusion: https://www.patreon.com/posts/conclusion-one-157900845
both so everyone can decided for themselves. Each person has a different case so why not both so we can choose
With $1 a month you can become a millionaire and sustain your business. I agree with that, because that way you can stay afloat financially, update the graphics, and improve their quality daily. I wouldn't agree if those rules were broken, for example, with late updates, incompatibilities, or maintaining the same outdated graphics quality.
In my opinion, it's best to choose the 3-month and 6-month options. Ideal. I personally subscribe to the 6-month option. I think it's great.
As a developer I’d suggest monthly payment. A one shot earns income only for 2 yrs. You then depend on “additional” users and development will eventually end because of no new “cash”.
If you’re able to provide your customers with the option, do that. There’s no benefit to potentially making up to 40% of your player base feel screwed over because you felt the need to appease the 50% that polled for the $1/month option. Personally I pay $1/month, but subscriptions are frustrating and I don’t like keeping track of them all. If I had the option, I’d pay $25 and be done with it.
$25 one time payment of course. Unless you don't offer free updates, which would be pretty scummy
I prefer not to be in debt, and patron is like non existent in my country. With a long term mindset, and a one time payment of 25usd. Paying 1usd a month but I don't have the opportunity to fully utilise the 1usd as sometimes workload peaks and I end up not being able to play Ets2 for a good 3 weeks or so I end up wasting money.
The problème is that it was never 1$ a month....
you'd probably earn less with 25 usd once because less people will buy it, plus you won't keep earning money monthly and instead only earn 25 dollars per user
You'd be miles better off by offering both options to us. That way everyone will be happy.
Let's do both of them, one can choose
Both give us a choice
1$ par mois c'est mieux et vu le travail je suis prêt à mettre 2 $ par mois
En lo personal el ser desarrollador no cualquiera lo hace. Y si nos sirve pues que mejor apoyar para que siga actualizado y mejorando. Felicidades me gusta mucho. Snowymoon
1$ monthly payment is better than the 25$ once off incase SCS ends up stopping some of the mods to be used
Both options so everyone will be happy, id rather pay once and forget about it.
If anyone complaining about 1$/month they must be banned form this community. We don't need loud pussies around here 🖕😀
25 dollars for life is better
id rather you keep both.a one time payment for me
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Please excuse my English , it isn't very good. Although I haven't been a member for very long, I still believe you should offer both options so that everyone can decide for themselves. I am from Germany; I purchased Tier 1 and pay €11.40 per year. In other words, $20 USD would amount to approximately €21.18 per year for me. And $1 USD is roughly €0.85, which would come to about €11 for 12 months. However, since I think your work is fantastic, I am happy to pay the $20 USD (€21.18).
Ideally, it would be great to have both options. However, I think that a one-time payment might not be sustainable for developers in the long run. Given how frequently ETS2 updates, I think the $1 plan provides a better incentive for developer to keep updated on mod. I would prefer $1 plan to ensure the mod stays high-quality and up-to-date.
1 a month I feel works better for long term with updates. It's not noticed at all at 1 a month.
Give the community an option. I like when I can just decide if I want to pay out or do a monthly.
Please, $1, because I see that paying that dollar with a credit card is much easier and more acceptable for anyone from any country. I've already offered it to several people I don't know, and they subscribe because it's $1, but I don't have time to spend many hours in ETS2 to pay much more than that, no matter how fantastic the game becomes.
Very nice of you to ask. Thank you.
I live in Brazil, so the one for US$ 1 is more feasible.
I would say give the option of both so you cover all your bases. I know I would rather pay once than every month but not everyone is that way.
Same here as even though £$1 is nothing, some of us could encounter an issue with our banks like updates etc
Both
I think it's better as it is now because there are many who don't have $25 to pay for it, and $1 a month is easier to afford.
Both options sounds good :)
1$ Is so much better, I don’t even notice it
In the long term, as a customer, the $25 option is better , it would be much more convenient, and anyone who says otherwise is lying. However, the $1 option will keep you motivated to work on the project, and it will also be more convenient for you in the long run. In the end, I’ll go with the $1 option so it won’t die like JBX Graphics, which chosen the other option.
feel like $1 a month is better for everyone involved
I think it's very friendly for everyone who don't have the money like 25$ that's true. In my opinion it's the best option to pay 1$ per month.
Both can be good but for me 25usd is too much maybe 15 and people would say yeah i can try one month, (they will like it) and say oh its 25usd permanent well i can just pay once and its ok
I’m from a Developing country (Malaysia🇲🇾), and our currency exchange rate against the US dollar is really bad 🤡 Please keep the $1 monthly subscription option...
Both options. Some people might try for a few months then might decide to pay one time.
One dollar monthly is also good for testing performance.
$1/Month is good but i think also having the $25 permanent system will be great for players that are willing to use snowymoon for basically eternity
i'd say both would be the best option, so that everyone has a choice
bro keep that 1$
Need Both Because many users are tested with 1 usd!
In this case I think the subscription makes most sense overall. Both for you as developer & for me as a gamer using it. As already stated in your post. Also, it depends on the kind of mods. For your plugin based mod it makes most sense as it is right now as a subscription and the current cost is perfect 👌🏻
When i recently started getting into mods and i had to drop like 60$ total on mods it felt pretty bad, meanwhile 1$ a month for you means you get continued support and for us its barely any commitment. I think sub is better personally.
Hmm subscription is better for reshades and plugins and one time purchase is better for graphics overhaul like png and jbx
Well… if it’s just 1 USD then most people would say subscription. If it’s increases then answer would be different.
1 USD
I think you should give both options. I rather pay 25 dollar to have it a lifetime than 5 years 1 dollar a month
This, I'd also just buy it and get it over with. Also I won't have to rely on Patreon to have it working in the first place.
A one time payment can also have updates though.
Do both bro let ppl make their choices
It's no different compared to Peter Boese's Assetto Corsa mod known as Pure that is a $1 subscription. I don't understand all the fuss people seem to make Snowymoon's mod out to be.
Should be both available
1 dollar a month
I'm OK to one-time, and annualy subscription.
Thank you snowy for your hard work.
1$/month is clearly the better option. Paying $25 upfront for something that can break anytime after an update just doesn’t make sense. At least with a subscription you can cancel if it stops working or you stop playing. People saying “subscriptions are bad” are just talking nonsense.
if you use this for just 3 years, you'd already have paid more than with the OTPurchase.
1 dollar a month u ain’t even notice 🤣 keep the 1$ one
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